Top 10 Hacker News posts, summarized
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(409 points, 302 comments)
Finland is considering a ban on social media use for children under 15, following Prime Minister Petteri Orpo's concerns about declining physical activity and the detrimental effects of social media on youth. This move comes after schools in Finland successfully implemented restrictions on mobile phone use during school hours, leading to increased creativity and social interaction among students. The proposed ban is framed by some as ending an "uncontrolled human experiment" due to rising rates of self-harm, eating disorders, and value discrepancies among young people, exacerbated by early smartphone adoption in Finnish culture.
Finland is drawing inspiration from Australia, which enacted legislation banning social media for under-16s, placing the onus on platforms to prevent underage use. While this Australian model aims to shift responsibility from parents to tech companies, concerns have been raised about enforcement and the potential for invasive age verification methods. Critics suggest Finland should leverage its educational strengths in digital literacy rather than adopting a reactive ban, advocating for a focus on teaching children digital safety.
HN commenters expressed a range of opinions on the potential Finnish social media ban. Several noted the peculiarity that a specific law change was required to allow schools to restrict phone use during school hours. A significant point of discussion revolved around the feasibility and implications of age verification, with many users expressing concern that such measures could lead to invasive surveillance and a de facto requirement for internet identification for all ages.
There was also debate on whether bans are the most effective approach. Some suggested alternative strategies like targeting advertising revenue from children or enhancing digital education and parental controls. Others questioned the definition of "social media" and the potential for unintended consequences, with one user drawing a parallel to banning hard drugs and another highlighting the evolution of social media from connection tools to addictive platforms. The sentiment that adults might benefit from similar restrictions on social media was also voiced.
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(372 points, 245 comments)
The article reveals that mobile carriers possess the capability to obtain precise GPS location data from users' phones, a fact largely unknown to the public. While cell tower triangulation provides location data in tens to hundreds of meters, cellular standards like RRLP (2G/3G) and LPP (4G/5G) enable devices to silently send GNSS coordinates directly to carriers, offering accuracy within single-digit meters. This functionality has been utilized by law enforcement and intelligence agencies in the past, such as the DEA and Shin Bet, for tracking individuals. Apple's latest iOS privacy feature, introduced in version 26.3, limits this precise location data to cellular networks, but it is currently only available on devices with Apple's in-house modems released in 2025.
Many commenters expressed that the ability of carriers to access precise location data is not surprising and has been known for some time, with some noting that emergency services already utilize this capability. There was a sentiment that this information should have been more widely known. Some users pointed out the implications of Apple's new feature, particularly that it's limited to their own modems and requires carrier support, leading to questions about alternatives for other devices and platforms like Android. Concerns were also raised about the potential trade-off between privacy and emergency service access.
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(139 points, 301 comments)
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The discussion highlights significant skepticism regarding the privacy claims of WhatsApp. Several commenters suggest that Meta, the parent company of WhatsApp, likely possesses the ability to access user messages, even if end-to-end encryption is technically employed. This skepticism is often attributed to the closed-source nature of the application and the operating system, as well as past practices of large technology companies and their perceived relationships with government agencies.
Commenters also debated the technical feasibility of WhatsApp reading messages and the nature of the investigations. Some theorized that private keys stored on client devices could be compromised, or that backdoors might exist. Others questioned the methodology of such investigations and whether they involved technical analysis or simply requests for information. A counterpoint was raised, asserting that WhatsApp uses the same encryption protocol as Signal and that claims of Meta bypassing encryption are unsubstantiated without proof. The role of backups and the potential for vulnerabilities in client-side applications were also mentioned as contributing factors to privacy concerns.
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(194 points, 52 comments)
The article presents a CLI tool that geolocates IP addresses by leveraging latency measurements from a distributed probe network called Globalping. The author was inspired by the realization that some IP geolocation services may not accurately reflect physical locations, potentially by faking data. The tool works by pinging an IP from various probes across continents and then narrowing down the location to a country, US state, and even a city based on the lowest latency. Initially, the author tried ping, but found traceroute to be more reliable due to widespread ICMP blocking. The tool's accuracy is dependent on the number of probes used, with more probes yielding better results, and is designed to be accessible with minimal configuration.
The discussion highlights a mix of surprise and validation regarding the tool's effectiveness, with some users expressing initial skepticism about latency-based geolocation due to network variability. Several commenters questioned the robustness of the latency-as-distance model and suggested potential avenues for spoofing results by the host under measurement. Concerns were also raised about the tool's reliance on ICMP and how it would fare if targets disabled it. Additionally, comparisons were drawn to existing services like RIPE ATLAS, and more advanced techniques like ML-assisted trilateration were discussed as potential improvements for greater accuracy and robustness against routing asymmetries and Anycast.
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(140 points, 59 comments)
The author, a former NixOS user, shares their initial impressions of Guix System. After years of distro-hopping and eventually embracing NixOS for its declarative configuration and per-project environment management, they turned to Guix, which uses Guile Scheme instead of Nix's proprietary language. The installation process presented immediate challenges with unsupported hardware and unexpectedly slow download speeds. Initial desktop environment issues, particularly with KDE Plasma, required extensive troubleshooting and the eventual adoption of the Nonguix repository for non-free drivers and firmware. Despite these hurdles, the author found Guix System to be a viable daily driver, offering a comparable declarative experience to NixOS with a more palatable configuration language.
The author highlights several positive aspects of Guix System, including its helpful community, integrated home configuration management, good package availability for FOSS software, and the use of Scheme for configuration, which they find more accessible than Nixlang. They also praise the ease of hacking and contributing to Guix compared to Nixpkgs. However, they note ambiguous areas like the search functionality and the documentation's structure, and identify several "bad" points: unstable substitute servers, a scarcity of quality Guix content, slower build speeds than Nix, and less clear command syntax for new users. Despite the initial difficulties, the author expresses satisfaction with Guix System and plans a follow-up post on packaging.
Commenters expressed mixed reactions, with some questioning the author's "fickleness" as a reason to value their first impressions, while others found the report valuable for their own curiosity about Guix. A recurring theme was the comparison to NixOS, with users highlighting NixOS's strengths in server management, ZFS support, and broader package availability. The complexity of modern GPU drivers for open-source systems was noted as a general challenge impacting both Guix and other Linux distributions. There was also discussion on the perceived difficulty of Nix's language and Guix's reliance on Scheme, with one user lamenting the lack of simpler configuration options and another speculating about a potential "parent language" for declarative configurations that could facilitate conversion between systems like Nix and Guix. The article's mention of extremely slow download speeds during installation was also pointed out as a likely typo.
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(124 points, 60 comments)
The article posits that Swift, despite its high-level origins, shares a striking number of core features with Rust, a low-level systems language. Both languages offer powerful type systems with generics, functional programming constructs like tagged enums and pattern matching (though Swift uses "switch" syntax for its "match" functionality), and compile to native code and WASM via LLVM. The key difference highlighted is their default perspective: Rust is "bottom-up," providing low-level control with optional higher-level abstractions, while Swift is "top-down," offering high-level convenience with the ability to descend to lower-level operations. This manifests in their memory management, with Swift defaulting to copy-on-write value types and Rust favoring moves and borrows, though both allow for reference counting and unsafe low-level access.
The author argues that Swift cleverly "hides" its powerful features within familiar C-like syntax, making concepts like pattern matching and optional types (nil vs. None) more accessible to developers accustomed to imperative languages. While Rust's compiler is lauded for catching potential issues, Swift's compiler is seen as more proactively solving them, sometimes through more automatic handling. The article also acknowledges Swift's growing cross-platform capabilities beyond Apple ecosystems, citing its use on Windows and Linux, and its suitability for UI and server development, while positioning Rust as more dominant in systems and embedded programming.
The Hacker News discussion largely debates the article's central claim, with many agreeing on the superficial similarities between Swift and Rust but questioning the "more convenient Rust" assertion. Some commenters found Swift more ergonomic for certain tasks, citing parameter defaults and null short-circuiting as advantages, and acknowledging its easier learning curve and interop. However, several users strongly pushed back, pointing to Rust's superior tooling (Cargo vs. SPM), perceived greater cross-platform maturity today, and a preference for Rust's development model not being tied to a single large company.
Several technical inaccuracies in the article were noted, particularly regarding Rust's handling of recursive enums, where commenters clarified that `Vec` already provides the necessary indirection and `Box` is not always required. Critiques of Swift's development experience also emerged, focusing on Xcode's limitations, build system challenges, type inference performance issues (especially with SwiftUI), and the complexity of its concurrency model. A counterpoint was raised suggesting that developers seeking Rust's convenience without the borrow checker could instead leverage Rust's reference counting features. The perception of Swift remaining niche and tied to Apple platforms was also a recurring theme.
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(122 points, 62 comments)
The author, Bingwu Zhang (xtex), details their frustrating experience attempting to contribute patches to the OpenJDK codebase. After submitting patches in January 2025, they discovered the requirement of signing an Oracle Contributor Agreement (OCA). Despite fulfilling the OCA requirements and following up monthly for over a year, their submission remained unreviewed and unrejected. Zhang expresses concern about potential export control issues due to their location in Chinese Mainland and requests a clear rejection if such restrictions apply, rather than prolonged inactivity.
Due to the lack of progress and sustained interest, Zhang has decided to abandon upstreaming their patches. They are now making these patches publicly available for anyone else to pick up and submit, with the understanding that new contributors may need to rewrite them from scratch as original works. They list several specific patches, including those for checking "llvm-config" and extending default thread stack size for zero, as well as patches for Loongson's fork of JDK that were also blocked by the OCA process.
HN commenters expressed a mix of empathy for the author's situation and skepticism about the value of the proposed patches, with some links being broken or trivial. The protracted and seemingly stalled OCA review process was a significant point of discussion, with several users sharing similar frustrating experiences with corporate-backed open-source projects. This led to a broader conversation about project maintainer responsiveness and its impact on contributor retention.
Several comments touched upon Oracle's role and perceived gatekeeping of OpenJDK, with some questioning its ownership and control. The political nuance of the author's phrasing regarding their location also sparked a side discussion. A few users also speculated about the future of open-source contribution models, particularly in light of AI advancements, and contrasted contributing to OpenJDK with alternative JDK distributions. The possibility of miscommunication or a misunderstanding of the workflow was also raised.
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(99 points, 13 comments)
The Genode OS Framework is a toolkit designed for building highly secure, special-purpose operating systems. It supports a recursive system structure where each program operates within a dedicated sandbox, granted only necessary access rights and resources. This sandboxing extends hierarchically, allowing for granular policy application. Genode combines L4 microkernel principles with the Unix philosophy of small, composable building blocks, encompassing not just applications but also core OS functionalities like kernels, drivers, file systems, and protocol stacks.
The framework is versatile, scaling from resource-constrained embedded systems to dynamic general-purpose workloads. It supports multiple CPU architectures (x86, ARM, RISC-V) and various kernels, including L4 family members, Linux, and a custom kernel. Genode also offers virtualization capabilities and over 100 pre-built components. It is open-source with commercial support available from Genode Labs.
The discussion reveals some initial lighthearted misinterpretations of the name "Genode." Several commenters express familiarity with Genode and its related projects, noting its recurring presence on Hacker News and positive experiences with its showcase, Sculpt OS. There is interest in practical daily-driver use cases, specifically the ability to run Linux and Windows within Genode and its potential for development environments like Lazarus/Free Pascal. Some users requested specific hardware support, such as for Raspberry Pi models. Finally, comparisons were drawn to other customizable build systems like T2 SDE.
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(65 points, 36 comments)
The article "Outsourcing Thinking" by Erik Johannes explores the potential cognitive downsides of using Large Language Models (LLMs), arguing that while the "lump of cognition" fallacy suggests we can simply think about other things when machines handle tasks, the reality is more complex. Johannes suggests that outsourcing certain cognitive tasks can lead to a decline in crucial skills and a loss of valuable experiences. He highlights three areas where LLM use is particularly problematic: building complex tacit knowledge, engaging in personal communication, and valuing experiences for their own sake.
Johannes emphasizes that the line between using LLMs for assistance and having them essentially perform the task is perilously thin, especially in personal communication where the expression of thoughts is intrinsically linked to meaning and relationship building. He also challenges the idea of the "extended mind," arguing that the distinction between human cognition and external devices is significant and that outsourcing tasks like remembering birthdays has tangible consequences. Ultimately, the article contends that while LLMs may offer efficiency, their widespread use forces us to confront fundamental questions about our humanity, values, and the kind of society we wish to build, advocating for conscious protection of certain human activities against automation.
The Hacker News discussion largely acknowledges the author's concerns about LLMs and "outsourcing thinking." Several commenters echo the sentiment that the issue isn't necessarily the *amount* of thinking we do, but *which* thinking we cease to do, with concerns raised about the loss of judgment, ownership, and intuition derived from seemingly mundane tasks. There's a shared observation that LLMs can create a cognitive load shift, leading to impatience and skimming of outputs, and a fear that this "Thinking as a Service" model could have devastating long-term consequences by training an entire generation not to think for themselves.
A recurring theme is the comparison to prior technological shifts, such as web search and GPS, where certain skills were de-emphasized, leading to a gradual loss of ability. Some commenters express a more pessimistic outlook, suggesting that LLMs are currently more adept at imitating intelligence than possessing it, and that their output should be critically evaluated due to frequent inaccuracies. Conversely, a few comments propose a more utilitarian view, suggesting that if outsourcing thought is beneficial, those who practice it will thrive, and that the "lump of cognition" framing might miss that human history is characterized by progressively outsourcing mental functions.
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(68 points, 17 comments)
The article describes the creation of a scriptable 3D game engine for the Nintendo DS, allowing users to write and run games directly on the console. Developed in C with libnds, the engine compiles to a compact ~100KB ROM that achieves 60 FPS. It features a touch-based code editor on the bottom screen and real-time 3D rendering on the top screen, with a 3D pong game serving as the default example.
The engine utilizes the DS's 3D hardware for rendering colored cubes, with each model having adjustable position, rotation, and color. The camera is fully controllable. The scriptable language includes variables, loops, and conditionals, executing one line per frame. It supports 26 user-defined variables and 9 read-only registers for input and system state. The engine also offers commands for 3D object manipulation, camera control, sound, and pausing, along with input registers for the D-pad and buttons.
Commenters expressed significant enthusiasm for the project, with one user highlighting the potential to run it on a modded 2DS via a DSi emulator. Another user, however, suggested that the scripting language might be more cumbersome than using C directly. A common theme was the desire for more hackable Nintendo hardware, with users expressing appreciation for the DS's form factor and its potential for uses beyond gaming, such as home automation. The Nintendo DS itself was lauded as one of the greatest portable gaming systems ever created. One commenter, actively working with libnds and framebuffer manipulation for their own projects, found the engine particularly relevant and expressed intent to try it on their DSi XL.
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